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Bill Barr should be behind bars.

Lying piece of shit.

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agreed

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Thank you, Mary, for keeping us up to date.

Bill Bar should be in jail as Ken Fry says. I am glad Elie Mystal's book is number 2.

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Yes to both.

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Mary I apologize For Offending Maureen, I GUESS FACEBOOK too controversial an issue with some to even have opposirte opinions about without offending, I was tagging on this reply comment to let you know I will be more careful when expressing my Facebook opinions, HOT BUTTON ISSUE, your fan John Pillin

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MARY! Can you please read aloud--live--- GET THE FASCISTS OFF THE LISTS every day at high noon on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube?

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I will!

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Thank you!

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E JEAN, Since The Pursuit You Took On To Get Justice For What Donald did to you, Its Been Exhilarating While You Spread Out on These Issues. I'm always waiting for you to Pull Out That Verbal Sword To Fight With The Big Boys, Your an Inspiration To Me!

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Also I just need to mention because it doesn’t seem the media for whatever reason is mentioning that 4 US Marines from Camp LeJuene NC lost their lives this week. They were doing drills with NATO troops in Norway when their Osprey aircraft went down. They go into the military knowing the danger and go anyway. Please say a prayer for their families that are left behind. Semper Fi 🇺🇸

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I saw that on News But I believe You Mean The "Coverage" should have been greater. I Agree, But My Whole Adult Life I've Seen the media "Can't Be Overhauled" but it can change slowly, THE MEDIA is A Monolith, Lets Treat it Like A Monolith and Network More To Make These Slow Changes Go Faster!

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Amidst the terrible news of the traitorous liar Barr who destroyed the DOJ reaching number 1 in book sales, I want to share news of some good people. Ashton Kutcher and Milo Kunis have raised $35M to help Ukrainian refugees

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It's So Inspiring, The 70s Show, Shows Up To Support Ukrainian, This Gives HOPE to me!

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Mary I seriously got anxiety reading this. You know the flight or fight butterfly feeling. I am not sure I can take much. How is it that Barr’s book is #1 on any list.

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Melanie, Its Depressing To Interpret this But How Can Fox News EVER Be #1 in Cable News, But The Bright Side is Adding MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, PBS, BBC etc Means All in All The SANE MEDIA outnumber the lNSANE Media perhaps 5 to 1, STRENGTH IN NUMBERS

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Facebook can be useful. I use it for family and friends and follow pages I like, mainly rescue groups. My page and info is only visible to friends and family. My posts are not visible to anyone unless I specifically make it so. There is no other way, so far, that allows such an easy way to stay in touch.

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I tried to do without it. We rely on it more than an we realize.

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Mar 21, 2022·edited Mar 22, 2022

The trick to quitting Facebook, Ronald, is to first remember how we managed to live our lives when it wasn't around yet (assuming you're old enough to remember.) Life was simpler when we didn't know each other's business all the time. When I quite Facebook in 2014, I felt 'disconnected' for about two days, then suddenly I didn't miss the soap-opera-ish garbage that is Facebook on a daily basis. I truly felt liberated. I went back on Facebook for one last time, and posted my email address. I told my friends that if they wanted to talk to me, they could email me. It was my 'goodbye' message.

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Ronald And Greg, I've Been Off Facebook Since 2008, The Algorithim MUST BE CHANGED BY Congressional Regulation, Watch a few Maury Shows and Reruns Of Maury and You Will Witness How Problematic and Toxic Facebook is!

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Yeah, I'm well aware, sadly. 😔

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Thx Bro, Vetter To Step Out if the light, than submit to get in a fight

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I get it Cindy, but I sure wish there was some oversight. My wife is exactly like you and only keeps up with friends and co-workers, plus she has a page for the not-for-profit group she operates. Facebook would be harmless if all purposes were benign and there were no evil players. The sad fact is that disinformation and lies flow like mighty rivers on Facebook, while truth and reason stagnate like small ponds.

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agreed Greg

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I enjoy Dan Rather's "Steady"

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I'm so grateful that he is still among us, one of the last remaining "classic" newsmen of his era. I'm sure he's been an inspiration to the next generation of credible newspeople out there, though sadly that seems to be a smaller group than ever. I'm heartened by the diversity though, of women and people of color who are currently out there in his former role.

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There is a question about who exactly is buying much less reading Barr’s book. Did the RNC buy hundreds of thousands of them, as happened with Don Jr to get him on the best seller list? I would not be surprised if that is the case.

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RIGHT ON TINA

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I used Facebook quite a lot and it wasn't actually that hard to turn off all ads and delete "friends" that had weird facist ideas but I finally just got off because I really didn't like being in the Facebook count. I'm really enjoying Allow me to Retort. Highly recommend Steven Pinkers book Rationality. And yes, please, media DO BETTER. Could we be any more disgusted with Bill Barr or fed up with Merritt Garland. DOJ, do better! Thank you, Mary for your newsletter.

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The final sentence of your critique of the media's covering of Barr's book is so spot on. Kudos!

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Thanks, Gary!

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MARY, im sorry if I offended Maureen, Im not trying to wreck this thread, I guess Facebook is a deeper issue with all people then I realized Mea Culpa

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Sorry - off-topic: Someone on Twitter (a few days ago) asked people to identify American oligarchs (with the strict definition of the word - not just wealthy people, but wealthy people who use that wealth to influence politics, etc). I wonder if we could submit names/justifications as a group and you (or someone else) curate that list. Would that be worthwhile? It seems most of these people (I mentioned the Schlitz beer heir and no one had heard of him - Richard Uihlein, the founder of the Uline shipping-supplies company) are unknown, and we should be keeping track of them.

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Ricard has tried to smear Dem candidates in Wisconsin and Illinois for years and he's doing it again this year. He's also donated millions to these vile people. His wife's name is Elizabeth and they need to be more widely known. In case anyone wants more info about them. Thanks for bringing this up Barbara. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_and_Elizabeth_Uihlein

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Great Reporting Carrie!

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Thanks John!

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I've been doing a little nosing around, and it seems part of the job has been done for us in The Institute for Policy Studies' report *Silver Spoon Oligarchs*. I have not downloaded the report yet, but it seems the thrust of the report is how these Americans maintain their wealth through tax evasion and not how they influence politics. A reminder: the definition of "oligarch" is "a very rich business leader with a great deal of political influence."

Find the report (an overview and a place to download the full report) here: https://ips-dc.org/report-americas-wealth-dynasties-2021/

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Great idea! I happen to be familiar with Uline's background only because of their vast assortment of shipping supplies. Despite their founder's horrible political activity, the company does carry high quality (and pricey) supplies and equipment, and I'm sure with the boom in online shopping their business is even more profitable.

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That doesn't mean we should be using their services. More people should know how awful their CEO's are.

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Agree, and I'm not a user but I'm just pointing out that if you flip over a carton or shipping mailer from an online order, you'll see that brand name.

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Got it. This is why education about these people is so vital.

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Does Tucker Carlson count as one?

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No. He's just a cog in the propaganda machine.

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I know that many people like myself with Facebook pages use it for personal interactions and in some cases because of our jobs (research source) and have locked down our pages so only our friends can access it. I've noticed that this is the case with most people on the political left which causes the lopsided rankings we see on Facebook each week. We aren't using it for a news source like awful people on the political right. I would love to delete my page but I need it for my two freelance jobs.

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John. Please stop. You can promote your own opinion without squashing others.

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I literally need Facebook for my reporting job. It's the only place where some of my sources can be found.

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Thank you for the info. The Bill Barr stat and media attention - ugh. It is so frustrating. I agree with you about Facebook and wish we all could stop using it, though I must give my own mea culpa on that front because I'm begrudgingly still on it. I have several friends overseas and a couple professional groups I belong to that, at least for now, is the best/only way to stay connected. And that's part of the problem - there isn't quite a comparable alternative. I second your shout out to the SistersInLaw podcast. It was the first podcast I started listening to on a regular basis and it is excellent! I'll check out the other two you noted, as well. Thanks for recommending.

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We have a media that is complicit; it never pushs back when it has public attention and knows when being fed nonsense. I love Facebook, never read the "news" on FB, but without it, would never see photos of my nieces and nephew growing up. That's what FB means to me. If you are stupid enough to read and believe info posted on it, then that's your problem. Same could be said for people who read and believe the checkout tabloids.

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The problem, Judith, is that when people believe flawed information on Facebook, they form flawed opinions, then go to the polls and elect flawed leaders who then write flawed policy. So when you say, "...that's your problem", that's really not true. It's EVERYONE'S problem, especially when the algorithms are built to push disinformation to drive more engagement in order to generate greater advertising revenue. I understand that it's wonderful to see your nieces and nephews growing up, but there is a very dark side to this seemingly innocuous platform.

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Great Take Greg

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Thanks much John! I do feel strongly about this issue, and I can tell you do as well!

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Mar 22, 2022·edited Mar 23, 2022

Deleted this and replaced for Unity

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Hi John, I'm not one to give advice really, especially since I actively go after those on Facebook who push lies and disinformation. (I don't even know that it does any good, but I want people who lurk -- those who read the dialogue but who never engage -- to see the 'good folks' win for a change. Until someone goes low, I try to be non-confrontational and respectful. Some people just have always thought 'one way' about issues and it's important to inform whenever we can. (Of course, others are just trolls and when I identify them, I become a counter-troll.)

You didn't ask for my advice obviously, but I think, maybe just soften your delivery with Maureen? She seems nice! It's hard to tone things down when impassioned in one's beliefs... I have to remind myself always of this. Nobody is immune. Thanks for your kind words. You also Keep The Faith. Love Peace Respect to you as well.

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Thank you for your thoughts. I also believe that listening to the flawed info on Fox News and in Tabloids is terrible, but I see no government intervention to deny people or organizations of this kind of free speech. One very great and grave responsibility of voting citizens is to inform themselves as best as possible. In school you do your pesky assignments, or fail. Before voting, you do your political reading or your elected leaders fail you. This is hard but the only means open to us voters. I don't know what is on Russian FB but there might be news of Russia's war in Ukraine. This would be good since their propaganda-laden media will not tell them. Two sides of this coin.

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Good morning, Judith!

I don’t think supermarket tabloids have ever been a large-enough problem to affect our democracy and I doubt they ever will be. Fox News IS a major problem, one which begs for the same kinds of solutions required of Facebook. One must pick their battles however. I’ve not thought about Fox News nearly as much as Facebook because it’s much more in the public perception AS a problem. I choose to focus on Facebook because lots of people like you (and my wife, who’s a very smart lady) tend to think it’s not such a big deal and often excuse it, sometimes blaming the users for making it so sinister. And all the while, Facebook does threaten our democracy, through what they push and for the reasons they push it. (I use the pronoun ‘they’ because Facebook is not a thing, it’s a group of people who write its rules and policies for reasons only they seem able to justify.)

You were absolutely correct when you wrote that “one very great and grave responsibility of voting citizens is to inform themselves as best as possible.” The problem is that it’s NOT being done ‘as best as possible.” You were also correct when you wrote, “In school, you do your pesky assignments, or fail.” No argument there because I know what you were trying to say. But you can’t compare this with voting for flawed leaders. In school, if you don’t study the material, you will fail yourself, but in our democracy, if you don’t ‘study the material’, you will fail not only yourself, but every other citizen in your district. In the case of those voting for Donald Trump, they failed themselves and every other man, woman and child in this country. We have now have a six-to-three conservative majority in our Supreme Court, our voting rights are in peril and woman are about to lose their right to choose what’s best for their lives, just to name a few things, all because just enough people voted for a seriously flawed person to hold the highest office in our land. We truly reap what we sow in a democracy.

You wrote that “Before voting, you do your political reading or your elected leaders fail you.” That’s true enough and it’s an admirable statement. But what about those folks who HAVE done their political reading, but unfortunately chose Facebook (or Fox News) as their source of information? Do you think that these well-intentioned people have informed themselves ‘as best as possible’ when they read, hear and believe the lies and disinformation propagated on Facebook and Fox News?

Because of these lies and the great extent to which people believe them, actual events, news and problems are deemed either fake or real depending on one’s confirmation bias. In other words, most of us only believe what we choose to believe. People no longer bother to think for themselves in our mouse-click world. Instead, they’ll take the paths of least resistance wherever they find them. To find any real solution, critical thinking is usually required, but that takes actual work and mental energy, as well as a valuation of truth and understanding above all other things. That’s not how Facebook rolls.

Facebook is designed to be easy and convenient, anything but hard. Facebook wants engagement above all other things so it can make more money through advertising. It takes dedication and time to fact check stories, but only three mouse clicks are required to mindlessly ‘Like’ and ‘Share’ a false story with hundreds of like-minded friends before moving on to the next item pushed to you by Facebook in your newsfeed. It’s much less work than actually giving a shit about what you’re reading, and that’s what Facebook wants. They don’t want your sweat equity, they don’t want a healthy democracy we can be proud of, they want your engagement, that’s all they care about. You have to see the evil in that Judith. You have to see that this is inexcusable and that changes need to be made, either in our laws or in our mindsets.

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You Took The Elaboration Right Put Of My Mouth, Thanks Greg!

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Gee, you make me wary of clicking "like" on your comment. Thanks for your lengthy reply. I appreciate it.

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Judith, I sense you are a very kind person! I'm glad you didn't take this as a belligerent reply! Take care and be well... and thanks for being among those who care in this world! :)

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And, um, I know I'm wordy. (grin!) I'll give you that one. Sincere as can be though!

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Thanks, Judith. I agree the user bears some responsibility for understanding the information. And Facebook as a concept is useful, and can be a helpful tool for reporting and getting information in some areas. But Mark Zuckerberg is a bad actor who deliberately drives users to misinformation and divisive content. He should bear significant responsibility, as should Fox.

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I can't comment on Zuckerberg being a bad actor while allowing Fox News to go untethered on the airways. If Zuckerberg can be called and expected to appear before congressmen and women and senators, why not the people at Fox? Strange to me. Zuckerberg isn't commenting on politics as much as Tucker and Laura, etc. are on Fox News. Zuckerberg made a media platform, not opinion, whereas people on Fox continually tell lies and misrepresent our world.

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Thanks Mary for keeping us posted. Will share.

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Thank you for this run-down. I’m relying on podcasts more often now.

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